regarding vixie cron pre 3.0 i have located the hole in crontab and disabled that on my system until i have v3.0 installed. ftp'ed and in process of configuration and test. did crond (previous name of cron) have any holes as well? should i disable it until v3.0 is ready? i want to understand the holes, not just plug them. otherwise i run the risk of recreating the holes when i write code myself. thank you, jmb Jonathan M. Bresler jmb@kryten.atinc.com | Analysis & Technology, Inc. | 2341 Jeff Davis Hwy play go. | Arlington, VA 22202 ride bike. hack FreeBSD.--ah the good life | 703-418-2800 x346